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Posted: 06 March 2006 at 4:05pm | IP Logged Quote admin

With a recent Mac virus in the news and now a story to really worry Mac owners.

Mac OS X hacked under 30 minutes

"Gaining root access to a Mac is "easy pickings," according to an individual who won an OS X hacking challenge last month by gaining root control of a machine using an unpublished security vulnerability."  More here
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Posted: 06 March 2006 at 4:17pm | IP Logged Quote Timestar

Seems like we won't be hearing that comment about macs being immune from viruses....

Computing without viruses and bugs - now that would be boring



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Sorry Guys but this Mac Hack story has been put about by those playing
some kind of "Na na na na na" game. They're reaching. I'm not dumb
enough to think that macs are invulnerable but given the track record of
Windows against OSX I know where my money is staying.

Check this out:

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Mac OS X hacker tale rebuked
By Macworld staff

A new Mac OS X hacker competition has been launched at the University
of Wisconsin.

The competition ends on Friday March 10. Hackers are being asked to
change the front page of a website that's stored on a Mac mini: "Running
Mac OS X 10.4.5 with Security Update 2006-001, two local accounts, and
has ssh and http open - a lot more than most Mac OS X machines will
ever have open."

The competition is a response to a report on ZDNet news this week,
which claimed a hacker had managed to break into Mac OS X in under
half an hour.

What that report didn't explain was that anyone who wanted to try to hack
that test Mac was given a local account on the machine which could be
accessed using SSH. This effectively put the hacker in front of the
machine and made the exercise much easier to accomplish.

The organisers of the new Mac hack competition said: "Yes, there are
local privilege escalation vulnerabilities for OS X; likely some that are
'unpublished'. But this machine was not hacked from the outside just by
being on the internet. It was hacked from within, by someone who was
allowed to have a local account on the box. That is a huge distinction."

Most consumer Macs won't hold user accounts for unknown people, won't
have any ports open and will most likely be behind a firewall, making the
earlier Mac OS X hacking exercise unrepeatable.

Macs cannot be hacked "just by being on the internet", the competition
organisers stressed.
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This is still a much more secure platform than Windows.

John

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Posted: 08 March 2006 at 9:41am | IP Logged Quote Timestar

Mac hardware + Mac software is ok if thats what you want the only problem i would have is it wouldnt have all my fav apps.

Still has that Betamax feel though.

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Betamax was fab

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Posted: 08 March 2006 at 11:12am | IP Logged Quote Timestar

hey you get back to your lyrics and music

what do you mean "fab" no titles=death

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Posted: 08 March 2006 at 1:32pm | IP Logged Quote quantise

Betamax?

Apple will have been around for 30 years in April!

Favourite apps might be an issue. Office runs on a mac and most of the
creative stuff is handled by the iLife apps.

Anyway, before long you'll be able to run Vista on an Apple if you want.

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Posted: 08 March 2006 at 2:54pm | IP Logged Quote Timestar

Already running Vista albeit CTP 5038.60 64Bit very impressed

If it wasn't for iPods what would Apple do?

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Noel wrote:
Betamax was fab

Are you mad? What about V2000 produced by Phillips and two or three others? That was the format of the first machine my parents rented they kept it for about a year before then switching to VHS.

Unfortunately I was left unable to view the recording I had made of ATF doing a couple of songs Joy and Rich Boys for the BBC East Weekend programme . I think I threw the tape away years ago which is a shame because in todays modern age it would probably be possible to pick up a machine off ebay and transfer it to DVD



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Posted: 08 March 2006 at 8:36pm | IP Logged Quote admin

I have played with Vista but  I think M$  will have a  hard job selling it.  The hardware  required  means an upgrade for most people and corporations will be reluctant to upgrade for at least a few years. 

It will be a good time for  computer vendors when people get it home and it coughs and splutters on existing hardware.

Now the Os X for X86 chipset looks fun, they have already got around the need for dedicated Mac hardware at twice the price.
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